With respect to your comment Gordina about how someone said how young Michael looked - when we went to Cardiff, i overheard one woman say to her friend that she remembered Michael from RoS and that he was just a gorgeous now as he was then, and her friend agreeing with her, think i did mention it before - anyway, I couldn't help but smile to myself when i overheard that comment - obviously people with very good taste
I agree -they and we all -are people with a very good taste.
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Re: Sound of Music « Reply #18 on Nov 7, 2009, 7:05pm »
We will miss you to Mercedes, but will see you next week instead, its not hat - Hat got hats on the brain it seems, LOL THAT, its not THAT far away .
Jacqui, yes, flipping things!. I would take a trip especially though , think my singing would be more irritating than that of the goats LOL well according to my unappreciative offspring it is
Re: Sound of Music « Reply #19 on Nov 11, 2009, 7:01pm »
I've been away from the forum for such a long time, real life has been rough for the last 12 months or so, I still try and make some of the chats though and I always try and make tiime for Michael . Hope someone still remembers me
I know its late but I was wondering if anyone would be at the Milton Keynes performance this weekend? I managed to get tickets for Friday and Saturday night but will be on my own Friday and staying over due to the lack of trains for my return trip. It would be nice to be able to share the evening with a friend.
I booked the tickets late so they aren't the best seats but it will keep me going till they hit my home town, Birmingham, next year where I've got good seats
Re: Sound of Music « Reply #20 on Nov 12, 2009, 12:46pm »
Gonna hijack Gordina's thread for this.
Firstly remember I am Simon biased and always will be.
Yes Simon is no Michael when it comes to singing but then Micheal is no Simon in the acting (sorry, ducks from objects thrown from Michael fans, especially Celeste)
I was very surprised how different their takes on the same role was, I've seen Maria played by 3 people - Summer Strallen and her understudy and I saw Connie's understudy yesterday, all three played the role very close, not many difference between the 2. But Micheal's and Simon's performances were so different.
Quick question does Micheal have any military background (cadets, parents?)
I think one of the main things is Simon tends to underplay things, he does things very subtly and he has a very military presence about him - he stands very straight (but that's part of him, he was a air force cadet and his father was an RAF captain), Micheal not so much. I felt he was very sever at the beginning, but it seemed it was just him, not just a reaction to his wife's death and not wanting to be hurt again, so later on I found it harder to warm to him, it still worked just not as well, I did like Micheal's clipping of the heels.
Micheal can SHOUT (nice), Simon tends to raise his voice to just before shouting still loud and powerful, just not quiet bellowing. Micheal missed out on a few of the laughs that Simon got from the audience (and I'm not talking about the laughs about Simon's singing - bless him) the 'when God shuts a door, he opens a window' Simon always got a laugh, he tended to play up the humor a bit too, while Micheal didn't as much so therefore didn't get the laugh.
Gordina did you think the Mother Abbess toned down her singing a bit? Cos 'Climb Every Mountain' took the roof of but her other bit's didn't which did at the Palladium? I love her voice!
I was thoroughly disappointed with 'Scary German Guy' the one from the Palladium petrified me - so much so that it was hard to smile at the actor after every time he passed us outside the theatre - he was always smiling at us. This German guy was 'Moderately Angry' I wasn't scared of him at all - I think I should have been.
Despite all that I really did enjoy it - it was very different and I was surprised how different the same play could be.
I would very much like to see Simon and Micheal in Sleuth again tho
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Re: Sound of Music « Reply #22 on Nov 12, 2009, 3:48pm »
LOL - you may well duck - "quack" LOL
Having never seen Simon in SoM or indeed on stage, I couldn't and wouldn't like to comment on his performance though just as you are "Simon biased" I am Michael biased - simply cant help myself LOL so don't agree with you on the point of Michael's acting - LOL.
Both men are brilliant at what they do, but both have their own way of doing things, their own unique approach , and from what i have heard from people at how brilliant Sleuth was, i am totally gutted that i didn't get to see it - really I am However I have seen SoM and I think Michael had it just right, even the little girl sitting next to us, asked her father why the "daddy " (Capt Von Trapp) was "cross" with the children - made my daughter sit up straight too - and she NEVER pays any flipping attention to me - Children are an honest gauge of things, their initial reactions are the true ones, and believe me, the affect Michael has before he softens, hits the mark - even as an adult, I felt that i should be sitting up and paying attention too LOL
Thing is, what is one persons interpretation of something or someone isn't going to be same as someone else - and thats what gives something like SoM its edge - keeps it fresh. and everyone who plays the role is going to give a different take on the character of the Captain - he is such a complex one - makes life interesting
Glad you enjoyed it, and i am looking forward to seeing it again myself in Llandudno in May next year - and it will be interesting to see how things have evolved since i saw it at the beginning of its run in Cardiff in the summer .
Having never seen Simon in SoM or indeed on stage, I couldn't and wouldn't like to comment on his performance though just as you are "Simon biased" I am Michael biased - simply cant help myself LOL so don't agree with you on the point of Michael's acting - LOL.
Both men are brilliant at what they do, but both have their own way of doing things, their own unique approach.
(...) Thing is, what is one persons interpretation of something or someone isn't going to be same as someone else - and thats what gives something like SoM its edge - keeps it fresh.
Hi!
I agree with you Sam -even if I have never seen them -on stage -because of the distance (you all are a little far away from me you know) I´ve seen movies -and I can see your point. But, I´m Michael biased too -that´s inside my blood, so I´ll always prefer to see him before anyone else. I can´t fight against that -I´m a "Michael´s one" -that´s my fate.
But -of course I recognize Simon´s talent -he´s an amazing artist too -they are just different and unique. That´s all.
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Re: Sound of Music « Reply #24 on Nov 12, 2009, 5:10pm »
Lol! Before anybody hops on Shelli's case, let me explain very quickly that I asked to hear her take on the actors' different performances. I also told her I expected her to prefer Simon over Michael. And what a surprise. She does! Just like she expects us to prefer Michael.
One of the fascinating things to me is how two people can get the same script and come up with two utterly different perspectives. I enjoyed hearing where there were differences and what kind of impression that made on your perception of the relationship of the captain with his kids.
I hear Christopher Plummer made the captain a lot tougher and more cynical than previous portrayals because he found it too sweet and wanted to add a bit of spice to the mix.
Shelli, Michael's father was in the military a long time. I believe he has extended family members who made a career of it. His alma mater Eastbourne College is run on military lines, so he does have military training. In fact, he's said that if he hadn't shown any aptitude in drama, he would have gone into the military.
I'll be interested to see if Gordina spotted alterations in Margaret Preece's portrayal of the Mother Abbess.
Re: Sound of Music « Reply #25 on Nov 13, 2009, 6:22pm »
He doesn't straight enough for someone with a 'military' background. Hmm Simon and Micheal are soooo similar (even their background)
I kinda knew I was gonna get hopped on considering one of my first lines is kinda not nice about him, but I think people know me well enough here to know that I do like Micheal and think he is a good actor, I just prefer Simon.
I will make it up to people - I have a full colour programme and a scanner (will only supply thumbnails till the run is over tho)
Oh, give us the man who sings at his work! Thomas Carlyle
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Re: Sound of Music « Reply #26 on Nov 14, 2009, 6:11am »
I think you are expecting too much of me to have noticed any difference of Margarete Preece's performance at the Palladium and in MK. If anybody manages to be close to God vocally, it's her. She could do opera. I bought her CD but I haven't listened to it yet. She has a very powerful voice and I haven't noticed any toning down in the latter performance.
As to Michael and Simon, both are very good actors and both, once cast for a role, have the right to interpret it their own way, subject to the director's instructions. I don't think that Simon's acting was inferior to that of Michael. I merely noticed that his singing voice was weak although he does have a nice voice. Maybe, if it wasn't for his illness, he would have been fine.
The voice is a musical instrument that must be trained regularly. I'm by far not doing enough of it because I have become an office person now. Yet, there is a mental image that has helped me. This is to all of you who love to sing: I breathe in deeply but make sure not to force or hold the air down because otherwise the sound won't be able to float out freely. I direkt the sound OUTwards toward the point just above the middle of my upper lip. To sing more loudly, I let my voice -gently- fill the room I am in, right to the ceiling. In Simon's case it would be the whole theatre right up to the roof and the last row of seats. But that's not enough! The sound rises gently beyond the theatre roof and can now be heard all over London. I imagine a bird's eye view of all those streets and houses where I am sending my voice. And it's still not enough! The voice rises further up in the sky to the universe and fills the space between the planets. Singing is a very spiritual and giving activity. That's why people sing in church and angels in mythology are frequently portrayed as singing. However, it's important not to scream. I simply let my voice fill all those spaces.
As to the SOM-"Nazis" I thought the ones from MK were less threatening. However, SOM in London had the element of surprise. I knew nothing about the musical, I just wanted to see it because Simon was in it. By the interval, I was practically in tears. Michael misinterpreted it as "I must have enjoyed the show" - which I did - but I was also very upset. So I agree with Shelli.
I think you are expecting too much of me to have noticed any difference of Margarete Preece's performance at the Palladium and in MK. If anybody manages to be close to God vocally, it's her. She could do opera. I bought her CD but I haven't listened to it yet. She has a very powerful voice and I haven't noticed any toning down in the latter performance.
I agree about her voice - FANTASTIC, absolutely amazing! I did find the opening song didn't have enough power, as at the Palladium I was awestruck ever time (3) - it might have been because I was sat in the first circle and not in the stalls *shrugs*
The last performance I went to I was sat right under her feet 2nd row, just staring up, mouth open!
The voice is a musical instrument that must be trained regularly. I'm by far not doing enough of it because I have become an office person now. Yet, there is a mental image that has helped me. This is to all of you who love to sing: I breathe in deeply but make sure not to force or hold the air down because otherwise the sound won't be able to float out freely. I direct the sound OUTwards toward the point just above the middle of my upper lip. To sing more loudly, I let my voice -gently- fill the room I am in, right to the ceiling. In Simon's case it would be the whole theatre right up to the roof and the last row of seats. But that's not enough! The sound rises gently beyond the theatre roof and can now be heard all over London. I imagine a bird's eye view of all those streets and houses where I am sending my voice. And it's still not enough! The voice rises further up in the sky to the universe and fills the space between the planets. Singing is a very spiritual and giving activity. That's why people sing in church and angels in mythology are frequently portrayed as singing. However, it's important not to scream. I simply let my voice fill all those spaces.
Hi Gordina,
I didn´t know that you sing -it´s so beautiful. I like the exercise that you gave us -even if I don´t sing too well -I´ll do it. It´s a very spiritual exercise -and I think it can help me with my chantings. Thank you.
My best friend is an opera singer -she lives in Argentina now and I miss her so much. She tried to make me sing -but it was a lost cause...